Thursday, December 14, 2006

Smoking in the bars

So what's with all this smokin' in the bars?
It's i-l-l-e-g-a-l. Don't people know that?
Ohio voters banned smoking in just about every place except the far corner of your basement and yet, go into just about any bar and chances are good you'll be able to bum a cigarette from the guy (or girl) sitting next to you.
Conscious objectors, that's what the bar owners are.
A guy who owns a bar in Cleveland was on NPR this morning and he said there is no way he's putting away his ashtrays because in the bar a couple doors down, people are smoking.
I'll lose business, he said.
So, the deal is: There's this law but there are no enforcers.
Hmmm. Think about that ... if no one was going to nail you for speeding, would you obey the posted limit? Shoot, I wouldn't.
Are they smoking in the bars you've been in since the law went into effect?
Is that OK with you?
Let me know.

7 comments:

Kelly Boyer Sagert said...

I don't go into bars, so I can't respond specifically to that.

As far as my overall thoughts as to this new law:

I'm not a smoker and I like not being surrounded by smoke -- but I still voted against this law.

I feel uncomfortable by the increasing number of ways in which the government is regulating personal habits. I'd rather vote with my feet and visit -- or not visit -- restaurants and other public places where I feel at ease and let others do the same.

When I first heard about this legislation, I questioned how it would be enforced. Police officers have enough to do without dealing with this issue.

Lynn B said...

Hey Patti,
they arrested this guy down in Dover or New Phili for smoking...
some old guy. The bartender called the cops after the waitress told him no and he continued to "inhale"

Patti Ewald said...

How could they arrest him? Oh, maybe for trespassing or something like that. Because even when they do start enforcing it, the bar owners -- not the smokers -- are going to be the ones that get nailed.
I wish some bar owners would see this and weigh in. The ones I heard on the radio were really angry ... no, maybe not angry, frustrated.

Kelly Boyer Sagert said...

Okay . . . yes. I'm still thinking about this: Because even when they do start enforcing it, the bar owners -- not the smokers -- are going to be the ones that get nailed.

Devil's advocate thinking:

So, let's say that I'm a smoker who has a grudge against someone who owns a bar or restaurant. I could therefore go smoke in their building and have my buddy report the business owner.

To take it a step further, if I refused to stop smoking or to leave, the only recourse would be for the business owner to call the police, right?

If they physically threw me out, I might have grounds for a legimitate lawsuit because, after all, I was just a law-abiding citizen who was in a facility of a law breaker (i.e, someone who had allowed a smoker in their public building).

Hmmmm . . . would I do any of that? Of course, not. But there are some major flaws in this law.

Patti Ewald said...

Wow. That is so true and I never thought about that stuff -- especially the part about getting the bar owner in trouble because he let you smoke.
Hmmm. Wonder what they are going to do? Like my smoker friend said, "If they are so terrible, why don't they just make them illegal?" But that would make people do other bad things like smuggle them from dangerous faraway places like Michigan and Pennsylvania and smuggling would bring in the Mob and pretty soon Tony Soprano is living next door ... whew, pretty scary.

ngscents said...

Why were the police called on this man for smoking? The law states that the local health department officials are the ones who are suppose to enforce the law. The police had no right to arrest this man.
Wake up folks!!!! We live in Communist Russia instead of the USA. Why in the world do you stupid voters continue to give away the rights that our founding fathers faught so hard to give us? I'll never understand it!

Kelly Boyer Sagert said...

Re: But that would make people do other bad things like smuggle them from dangerous faraway places like Michigan and Pennsylvania

Exactly! Scary places, those . . .

My husband was telling me that, in Cincinnati, a bowling alley owner is furious because his bowling league customers are simply driving 15 minutes more and bowling in Kentucky, where they can smoke.

I looked online for an article to confirm that, but all I saw was one from the Cincy Post quoting a bowling alley owner with that fear.

I dunno . . .